EMT Electrical Conduit Pipe Bending - the Math Formulas and Multipliers Behind a Conduit Bending Guide
90Bypass common limitations of bending electrical conduit
Very few beginning electricians are taught anything beyond common electrical conduit pipe bending instructions, and can have enormous difficulty when trying to bend larger conduit (greater than 1") as a result. Even more experienced journey level electricians seldom have any idea of the wide range of possibilities available to them when needed. Learning how to bend conduit to very nearly any angle desired is not difficult, however.
The math and formulas behind a simple conduit bending guide is actually quite simple and easily learned. The only tools necessary for more complex bends is a cheap scientific type hand calculator and an angle finder and any electrician bending large conduit should already have the angle finder.
The math of bending conduit consists of two main categories; that math that is built into a common hand bender and the geometry of a triangle. Each will be discussed separately. In addition, making concentric bends requires use of math that is not discussed in this article.
Radius and Deduct Figures
Size of Conduit
| Radius of Bend
| Deduct for 90 deg.
|
|---|---|---|
1/2"
| 4"
| 5"
|
3/4"
| 4 1/2"
| 6"
|
1"
| 5 3/4"
| 8"
|
Multiplier for Offsets
Degree of Bend
| Multiplier
|
|---|---|
10 degrees
| 6.0
|
22 degrees
| 2.6
|
30 degrees
| 2.0
|
45 degrees
| 1.4
|
60 degrees
| 1.2
|
The math of common hand benders used for bending conduit - multipliers
Much of the math used by the electrician in bending conduit is built into the hand benders used and is unchangeable. Only a few numbers and math operations need to be memorized to make offsets, saddles and 90 degree bends - by far the most common bends made and what is normally taught to beginning electricians. Even the multiplier and deduct figures are usually stamped onto the bender.
It is not the purpose of this article, however, to delve into the mechanics of common usage of a hand bender. If that is what is needed, instructions are given at the links in the preceeding paragraph or in the title page link given in the final paragraph in this article.
Triangle vs conduit offset
Geometry of a trangle and the math of electrical conduit pipe bending
Most conduit bending outside of a 90º bend can be calculated using the geometry of a common triangle. In the drawing above, the heavy black line represents an offset bent into a conduit, while the green color is an imaginary trangle that it is bent around. Note that a 3 point saddle could be drawn by placing one more triangle back to back to the one drawn, while a 4 point saddle would also have a second triangle with some space between the two trangles. Understand that conduit is not a one dimensional line, but rather a three dimensional object with curved, not sharp, corners. These considerations will affect the measurements used, but only to very minor amounts; in everyday usage they can be ignored.
In the drawing the sides of the triangle are labeled a,b and c; these are the lengths of the sides. Angle "d" is also indicated; this is the angle the conduit is bent at. One of the remaining angles is always 90º while the other always depends on the first, being 90 minus angle d.
Math formulas for bending conduit
The math formulas we will be using are sine, cosine and tangent operations and are listed below, with algebraic equivalents in each case. Each set of formulas are thus the same formula, simply expressed differently.
1. Sine Calculations
Sine(d) = a/c [That is, the sine of angle d = side a divided by side c]
a = sine(d) * c [Side a = sine(d) times side c.]
c = a/sine(d) [Side c = a divided by sine(d)
2. Cosine Calculations
Cos(d) = b/c
b = cos(d) * c
c = b/cos(d)
3. Tangent calculations
Tan(d) = a/b
a = tan(d) * b
b = a/tan(d)
As each calculator may have a different order of key presses to obtain results, you will have to read and understand the instructions for your particular calculator to use the trigonometric functions in it. In particular, the method of finding the inverse functions will be needed; these functions convert a sine, cosine or tangent figure into the degrees of bend. Make sure that your calculator is set to read in degrees; they will often give angles in radians, which is useless for the electrician.
Examples using the math for bending conduit
- Assume that we need a 2" offset in 3 1/2" conduit. Normally, this would be impossible even using a 10º bend as two bends cannot be made that close (12") together in that large a conduit. Using the Sine formulas let's try a 2º bend. We know side a to be 2" and the calculator shows that the sine(2º) = .0349. 2 / .0349 = 57". That's a little far apart for our bends, so lets try again using a 5º bend. The sine(5º) = .087, and 2 / .087 = 22.98 or about 23". That's a more reasonable length for an offset in 3 1/2" pipe, so it can be used where a 10º offset cannot.
- As an exercise, consider an offset of 12" using 22º bends. Again, c = a / sine(22º). Note that this can also be written as c = a * (1 / sine(22º). The sine(22º) = .3846, and 1 / .3846 = 2.6, which is the familiar multiplier for a 22º offset. This kind of math is where those multipliers come from!
- Assume we need a 4" offset, and that it must take place in exactly 15". What is the angle to be used? We know that a = 4 and b = 15. We also know that tan(d) = 4 / 15, or .2666. The calculator tells us that the inverse tangent of .2666 = 15º.
- Assume we need a 4" 3 point saddle, and that we will use 45º as the center bend with 22.5º angle bends on each end. What is the conduit shrinkage (the center of the bend will be closer to the end of the conduit than measured - by how much)? We know that a = 4" and angle d = 22.5º. What are b and c? Side c = 4 / sine(22.4º), or 10.45". Side b = 4 / tan(22.5º) or 9.65". The difference between b and c is our shrinkage; the center of our 3 point saddle will move just under 1". Most electricians forget about or ignore this shrinkage on 3 point saddles and the center of their bend is therefore not centered over the obstruction they are crossing.
Bend anything you want to
Usage of these formulas will enable the electrician to bend very nearly any angle he or she wants to. As an electrician myself, I have often found myself attempting to bend large conduit into odd angles and dimensions to match building or appearance demands; to do so with 3 or 4" conduit by trial and error gets very expensive very quickly. Memorizing these simple formulas can make the bending of large conduit much easier. My own memory aid is that:
Sine(d) = opposite / hypotenuse
Cosine(d) = adjacent / hypotenuse
Tangent(d) = opposite / adjacent
where the hypotenuse is the longest side, opposite is the side opposite the angle and adjacent is the side touching the angle but is not the hypotenuse. Or simply tape the formulas to the back of your calculator; believe it or not I grew up before there were calculators and had to memorize.
A final note - this article is but one of several written by an electrician, for electricians. A comprehensive guide to bending conduit has been written that gives a brief description of each page, along with a link to individual pages as well as a handful of other links to pages electricians might find useful. Feel free to check out this title page for anything else that looks interesting. If you don't find what you are looking for, leave a comment and it will be considered for future pages; the whole series is, and will continue to be, a work in progress.
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I didn't even realize that trig would be pertinent to bending conduit! I'll use this new knowledge when teaching my reluctant math students.
Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge. It's much appreciated.
thanks for sharing knowledge and teaching others
One of the hardest things to teach to "newbies" can be conduit bending if they do not understand math sometimes.
I always start with the basic bends first. After they master these, I will then show them more bending techniques and formulas.
One I use all the time is the "rolling offset."
hey whats the take up for rigid conduit 3/4, 1'' 1 1/2, 2'' and 3'' asap need info fast rigid pipe not imc
going to school for conduit bending with union and learning about shrink and gain. I just passed ac theory and im having trouble with switching decimals and fractions. They keep saying it so close with my answers. but i know i wouldnt use them in the feild. I only bent conduit by eye and a tape measure.Could you give me some advice.
deduct 6 inches for a 90. If your using a hand, dunno why you would cuz it will look like crap, but it will be stamped on the side.
I have tried using these calculations to recreate the results I had at work today. I needed a 5 to 5 1/2" offset in a 3 inch conduit. I tried 22 degrees as close together as possible, it was over 9 inches. I previously tried your multiplier of 6, and was unsuccessful, today I tried 5.75 with a spacing of 28.75. I resulted with a 6.5" offset. Please verify if my calculations are off or if I am missing something, I never took trig but my calculator did and I can recreate your results on paper with it but the multipliers don't seem to be working..
Sorry I left out a few words, may be confusing so..
After I bent the first at 22, I then tried 10 degrees but it seems the multiplier (6) is too big. I then tried 5.75 spaced 28.75 apart and came out with a 6.5" offset
So...
Sine(10)=.174
6.5/.174= 37
I didn't space my bends at 37 like i said they were 28.75. My boss said there was no formula but I know there is.. Maybe greenlee has multipliers that are used for certain benders.
I guess my almost perfect pipe will be getting outfitted with a nice new coupling lol :) at least it wasnt too small..
Thanks a lot for the speedy response and lengthy information!
I use the bender standing upright it has the stand and the little plate thing it slides along as its being bent. We have a little roofers' angle finder at our shop that I use for finding angles.
I'm guessing I over bent the pipe when I was actually trying to compensate for the "spring effect" when being released.
I think these benders should be made with more precision, like I said the thing that holds the pipe to the shoe and the shoe has too much play and ends up bending the pipe where u had not anticipated. I am going to keep trying to use these formulas and keep my calculator in my truck. We just got this bender about 6 months ago and I'm always the one running to the shop to bend pipe, If I can get it down to the science that I know it is, I would b happy :)
I'm still having a little trouble understanding the calculations probably because when in high school I finished all my math early and opted against trig so I could talk to all the honeys in business math, now look where I'm at!! Hahahahah
Very intense information. Will take days to understand and experience I'm sure. But thanks all the same













SEOshortcuts 21 months ago
Holy moly - you are an artist with this hub! Great in-content links, very relevant to the review, and as a former electrician, good information to boot!